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		BarryF 
		 
		
		
		
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		  Re:  Don Touhig's Initiative and Support for the PJM   
		
			This letter was sent to the following:
 
Rt Hon Margaret Beckett MP
 
Foreign Secretary
 
Foreign & Commonwealth Office
 
King Charles Street
 
London, SW1A 2AH
 
Ian McCartney MP
 
Minister of State for Trade
 
Foreign & Commonwealth Office
 
King Charles Street
 
London
 
SW1A 2AH
 
Rt Hon Tom Watson MP 
 
Veterans Minister 
 
MOD Ministerial Correspondence Unit 
 
5th Floor, Zone B 
 
Main Building 
 
Whitehall, London 
 
SW1A 2HB
 
Lt Col Alexander Matheson
 
Secretary of the Central Chancery of the Orders of Knighthood
 
St James Palace
 
London,  SW1A
 
Mr Bill Jeffery 
 
Permanent Secretary, Ministry of Defence
 
Ministry of Defence
 
Main Building
 
London, SW1A 2HB
 
Sir Michael Jay KCMG
 
Permanent under Secretary Foreign and Commonwealth Office
 
Foreign and Commonwealth Office
 
King Charles Street
 
London, SW1A 2AH
 
Private Secretary to The Sovereign
 
Sir Robin Janvrin, KCB KCVO
 
Buckingham Palace
 
London, SW1A 1AA
 
Permanent Secretary, Home Office
 
Sir John Gieve CB
 
Home Office
 
2 Marsham Street
 
London, SW1P 4DF
 
Mr William Chapman 
 
Appointments Secretary to the Prime Minister
 
10 Downing Street
 
London SW1 2AA
 
Rt Hon Des Browne MP
 
Secretary of State for Defence
 
Horseguards Avenue
 
Whitehall
 
London, SW1A 2HB
 
Mr Denis Brennan
 
Ceremonial Secretary
 
Ceremonial Secretariat
 
Cabinet Office
 
35 Great Smith Street
 
London, SW1P 3 BQ
 
Rt Hon Tony Blair MP
 
Prime Minister
 
10 Downing Street
 
London
 
SW1A 2AA
 
Mr Christopher J. Edge
 
Honours Secretariat
 
Room 1/62
 
Old Admiralty Building
 
London, SW1A 2PA
 http://www.fight4thepjm.org/documents/Beckett_120806_1.pdf
Enclosures:
 http://www.fight4thepjm.org/documents/PJMTouhig_toGL_070806.doc
http://www.fight4thepjm.org/documents/TouhigD_HoC_060706.doc
For addresses and text you can cut and paste, click here:
 http://www.fight4thepjm.org/documents/Beckett_120806_1_text.doc
More to follow ...
			 
			_________________ BarryF, who fought for the Right to Wear the Pingat Jasa Malaysia
		  
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		John Cooper 
		 
		
		
		
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			Great stuff Barry!   
			
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	| Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:54 pm | 
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		John Cooper 
		 
		
		
		
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			Have a look at the email addresses on here, if Ms Becketts does not work, ie it has a DAEMON Failure Notice attached please send it to one of the other named players to forward to Ms Beckett
 
 http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/ministerial_responsibilities/departments/fco.asp
If you copy and paste the following into your email To: address box and ask to forward on to Ms Beckett the following addresses this could have the desired effect we are looking for
 chris.stanton@fco.gov.uk
msu.correspondence@fco.gov.uk
Sosfa-action@fco.gov.uk
psalexander@fco.gov.uk
ministerfortrade@fco.gov.uk
pshowellsinfo@fco.gov.uk
psmrpearsonallstaff@fco.gov.uk
ps-triesmanallstaff@fco.gov.uk
fco.serv@fco.gov.uk
			
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		BarryF 
		 
		
		
		
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		  Re: Example letter  to be posted tomorrow   
		
			George F wrote:Example letter  to be posted tomorrow to all addresses supplied by Barry.  All readers to the forum Please feel free to copy this letter or make up your own to suit, remembering to mention the REBUTTAL STATEMENT. 
George,
 
Another corker... and linked to our Rebuttal and Petition.
 
This what we need.
 
Barry
			 
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		BarryF 
		 
		
		
		
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			John Cooper wrote:If you copy and paste the following into your email To: address box and ask to forward on to Ms Beckett the following addresses this could have the desired effect we are looking for 
Exactly so, John.  Thanks for highlighting them.
 
Barry
			 
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		John Cooper 
		 
		
		
		
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			BarryF wrote:John Cooper wrote:If you copy and paste the following into your email To: address box and ask to forward on to Ms Beckett the following addresses this could have the desired effect we are looking for 
 
 
Exactly so, John.  Thanks for highlighting them.
 
 
Barry 
Four of the email addresses are bouncing each time I send them so I have sent all of them again and asked the recipient to forward to Ms Beckett
			
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		GerryL 
		 
		
		
		
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		  Andy's Citation   
		
			I have just sent off a snail mail to Don Touhig with a copy of Andy's Citation attached. Here is the letter.
 
Dear Mr Touhig
 
 
That time is almost upon us when we remember those who made the ultimate sacrifice for their Nation. Many of those who take part in parades up and down the country will be, like me, recipients of the PJM. Many more are eagerly awaiting the arrival of their medal, hoping that it might arrive in time for it to be worn on their parade. But to do so will be discourteous to HM and so they are left on the horns of a dilemma. By every logical and moral criterion they are entitled to wear what they have earned, but the archaic and illogi-cal concepts at work within Whitehall seek to deprive us all of that very fundamental right.
 
 
	One such Veteran received his PJM yesterday via Royal Mail. Enclosed with it was a Citation which says with far greater eloquence than I could ever hope to muster, just what this award means to the Malaysians. With his permission I enclose a copy of that Citation for your interest and hopefully for distribution amongst your colleagues in government.
  
			
			 _________________ Gerald Law (ex RAF Borneo Veteran)
		 
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		'Jock' Fenton 
		 
		
		
		
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			Kudos Gerry...
  
			
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Paroi...Rasah...Batu Signals Troop.
		 
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		BarryF 
		 
		
		
		
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		  Re: New Evidence put before HD Committee   
		
			George F wrote:To Secretary of the HD committee  Cabinet Office.  
George,
 
Your letter emphasises just how simple the PJM recomemndation could have been.
 
Instead, there was 12 months of buttock-clenching, thin-lipped, mean-spirited thinking by a few British civil servants before they came up with a half-baked, confused and rambling excuse for a Minsiterial Statement that was designed, through its conflicting wording, to hide the fact that they had eventually had to re-write a whole set of Rules (two sets, actually), none "long-established", then introduce a new objection anc call it "long-standing", then apply the concoction retrospectively .... all just to deprive British citizens of the right to wear the PJM!
 
It beggars belief, it really does.
 
They are a contrived, two-faced, and deceitful bunch who served all that up to an HD Committee ... who unwittingly served it up to the Queen.  
 
Err ... I'll just re-read that last bit ...
 
And then I'll stand by it!
 
Barry
			 
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