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Last edited by StanW on Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:47 am; edited 1 time in total

They appear to be the War and Defence Medals with a 1918 GSM as the last one so did he serve in Palestine after the war? As for the crossed rifles, I recall when I was an Air Cadet in about 1958 to 1963 qualifying every year on annual camp for my shooting badges and all the general duties NCO's wore crossed rifles so it was not so rare then but then.......................we had ranges to qualify on! Then at 15 I joined the Army.

John

Looks like there are four medal ribbons, as for the crossed rifles, were they not worn by the RAF Regiment in the same way as the Army?

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May I thank you all most sincerely for your help and suggestions regarding the medals worn by my father. It is not my intention to clutter up the site with personal messages so I have replied to most people by Personal Messages. You will hear no more from me on this subject . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . until I get a result !!!!!

Well that was pure Cantonese wasn't it? What I meant to say was that it is not my intention to clutter up the site with my own particular subject. I have replied to most people by Personal Message. Thanks again,

Tony


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May I thank you all most sincerely for your help and suggestions regarding the medals worn by my father. It is not my intention to clutter up the site with personal messages so I have replied to most people by Personal Messages. You will hear no more from me on this subject . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . until I get a result !!!!!

Thank you all again.

Tony


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Tony, I am sure you can get all the info you require by contacting -
PMA IM 1B RAF
Room 5Building 248A
RAF Personnel Management Agency
RAF Innsworth
Gloucester
GL3 1EZ

Tel: 01452 712612 (ext: 7622)

I joined a medal collectors website, details obtained from the nmbva website, and in the Forum a guy asked if the PJM was issued named. I gave him what I knew and this was his response....Wonder if it were he who bought the one on ebay?
Kapyong
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Redfred,

Thanks for that.

Since my earlier post I have purchased a boxed medal from the UK which is of high quality and unnamed, it also came with a nice issue certificate.

Regards

Steve

War Medal

Defence Medal
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The positioning on the pocket indicates that there are three medals being worn four being the maximum in a row taking a row to the ends of the pocket stitching. (Clothing Regs) Magnified, the first two are (almost) definately the War & Defence Medals although they appear to be in the wrong order. The third is I believe (but cannot be sure) the GSM 1918.

The crossed rifles was worn in the same fashion by all three services with different colour backgrounds according to the uniform being worn and is still extant to this day. (Qualification Badges of the British Armed Forces)

J

Kentsboro.

Certainly marksman crossed rifles army style. When did the genteman join up? Was he always RAF? Such a marksmans badge could have been carried over in a, "Change of Arms". Without colour it is difficult to identify gong ribbons but I would plump for the first on the row to be Expeditionary Force France 1939. It was also issued again after the 1944 D Day Landings. As for other gongs....between 1939 and 45 he could even have served in N Africa or even India/Burma....the second gong looking likely for the latter. I aint no expert but suggest you look into all possible combinations.

MB.


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Not just by the RAF Regiment but by all other ranks so qualified in the RAF.

I can only see three medal ribbons so I presume that he served in the UK during the war years going overseas afterwards so it had to be a GSM station, Palestine of course fits the bill although Malaya came on line very soon after. The irony of the war medals was that the RAF or any other service person who served in the UK only ever got the 39-45 and Defence Medals irrespective of what they did. As did firemen, Policemen and Scout Leaders, oh for a responsible medals policy!!!

John

Redcapfred wrote:

Yes Stan, I did find that amusing....Just shows how far some will go for a few 'nuts' ! Quote: "it should be remembered that many NS men fought in the Korean war and were awarded 2 medals for that service."...Yes, more 'double-medalling' !
Quote: "The PJM is an official medal which has been recognised and Redcapfred you are wrong in saying otherwise. Perhaps, Redcapfred, I misread what you were actually saying and if so I apologise."....Indeed, you did misunderstand what I had said, the point I was making was just what you say, it is NOT a 'Mickey Mouse' medal, and for that reason we should not cease in putting on the pressure until the PJM has the FULL recognition it justly deserves.

Point taken but it did seem to read the other way, and I concur with your comments about keeping the pressure up which many are doing regularly.

Yes Stan, I did find that amusing....Just shows how far some will go for a few 'nuts' ! Quote: "it should be remembered that many NS men fought in the Korean war and were awarded 2 medals for that service."...Yes, more 'double-medalling' !
Quote: "The PJM is an official medal which has been recognised and Redcapfred you are wrong in saying otherwise. Perhaps, Redcapfred, I misread what you were actually saying and if so I apologise."....Indeed, you did misunderstand what I had said, the point I was making was just what you say, it is NOT a 'Mickey Mouse' medal, and for that reason we should not cease in putting on the pressure until the PJM has the FULL recognition it justly deserves.

Redcapfred wrote:

Stan, I share your anger, but you are incorrect to say it is I who is stopping you from getting your right to wear your PJM. I completed my 3 year Far East service in July 1964, one month before the qualifying date for the GSM62, so I am in the same boat as yourself.

Last edited by StanW on Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:44 am; edited 1 time in total

'Bang on the nail' Stan !